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« Reply #75 on: Apr 15 2006, 05:35 AM »
actually if u think about it, u hardly think before u speak, thats y loads of people get into trouble... they dont think before they do certain actions or say certain things...
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« Reply #76 on: Apr 15 2006, 05:38 AM »
Well ok in MOST cases people think about what to say, usually subconciously
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« Reply #77 on: Apr 15 2006, 12:48 PM »
Hmmm... yeah
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« Reply #78 on: Apr 15 2006, 02:00 PM »
Its good when people speak without thinking because they often say what's true but dont want to admit, and I think it's alwais better. And btw I also had a topic about reveres-speech here somewhere with a link to a site witch prooved that if you play a sentence someone says on reverse you will hear in the same language what that person was actually thinking... witch prooves that you actually don't really think too much when you speak (you think more about the surface of message you're saying and influence it thow)
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« Reply #79 on: Apr 15 2006, 04:26 PM »
I suppose what we think about (or usually think about to late) is what will happen if we say what we say,will it hurt a persons feelings so on.
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« Reply #80 on: Apr 15 2006, 04:44 PM »
Well yeah... and btw since you said about it, I also believe it's best to say the truth even if it will hurt a person's feelings. I see happiness through lie way more cruel then just saying the truth once and hurting someone.
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« Reply #81 on: Apr 15 2006, 05:26 PM »
Saying the truth early is better then saying it late
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« Reply #82 on: Apr 15 2006, 10:07 PM »
This is true, but i ask you what is the cost of lying?
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« Reply #83 on: Apr 16 2006, 04:11 AM »
i hate the topic of lying, if u tell a white lie than sumtimes its ok, but sumtimes u have to tell lies to save sum1 else or to help sum1's feelings... its really deep and confusing
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« Reply #84 on: Apr 16 2006, 06:56 AM »
Never lie, I see it as a bad thing. And I see lie as a "fake image" destroying the real thing. If its something good and you say something bad, it's pointless. If its something bad and you ie something good just to not hurt anyone, it's really really back because the happiness of that person does not stay on something permanent & stable. I can't beieve these days how much idiot parents tell their kids they're they're real parents when they're not, or other stuff like that but anywayz it's their buisness...
Never helps. And well, if you reall really have to lie once, even is u shouldn't, at least make sure that you will tell the truth sooner or later. It's "permanent" lies that I hate very much and am totally against...
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« Reply #85 on: Apr 16 2006, 11:18 AM »
So you say that the truth should always be told in good and bad situations?
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« Reply #86 on: Apr 16 2006, 11:54 AM »
The cost of lies can vary. Small lies like tricks just for fun are ok. And when you reassure someone in a dire situation, you say its going to be ok even if your not sure about it yourself. Those kinda of lies are fine in my opinon. Its ones that are there to hurt or cover up something are the bad ones. or lies that keep you going and going and going then at the end of it all there is is Disapointment
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« Reply #87 on: Apr 16 2006, 12:07 PM »
Exactly. Even if in worse situations it might seem that lying could fix things, in most cases it only brings it later and WORSE then if the truth would have been told directly in that moment. And if you do it for someone you care about and who cares about you, when he/she finds out it's worse because alongside the problem you lied for he'll also feel hurt because you lied to him. Think how the poor person would have to deal with 2 things then! If u are honest with your friends, they'll get over the truth, no matter witch one that is (the only exception I think would be if u killed someone thow because that would be too much but even that can be once fixed once)

[edit] I was writing before Sirus posted, I perfectly agree, joke lies and these are no problem thow I try to avoid these too but they aren't bad. Cover-up lies are the evil ones witch should never be said.
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« Reply #88 on: Apr 17 2006, 05:45 AM »
hmmm... i told u the topic of lying was a deep topic... I know it sounds weird but i agree with all of you... all the points u make all contribute are all valid ones and they are all the anwsers... but i really dunno
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« Reply #89 on: Apr 17 2006, 01:05 PM »
Everybody can lie for they have the tongue of the snake of old...
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