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The problem with the anime industry...
« on: Jan 31 2014, 01:09 PM »
According to Hayao Miyazaki, it's full of otaku who don't observe real people. "Humans that can't stand looking at other humans". Source: http://goo.gl/PgQSgA


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Re: The problem with the anime industry...
« Reply #1 on: Jan 31 2014, 10:18 PM »
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Other things Miyazaki doesn't like include:

[...]the iPad, for which he compared the gestures to masturbation.
...Wait, what?

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Re: The problem with the anime industry...
« Reply #2 on: Feb 02 2014, 05:16 AM »
Yay, Miyaziki doesn't like the iPad! I just hope he's neutral to Android though, back on topic.

Its all Kill La Kill's fault.

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Re: The problem with the anime industry...
« Reply #3 on: Mar 12 2014, 09:12 PM »
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Other things Miyazaki doesn't like include:

[...]the iPad, for which he compared the gestures to masturbation.
...Wait, what?

same here I owned a iPod Touch 2g and 4g and a iPhone 4s, and I can't relate to any behaviour I had that would make me say something like that... Well I don't really shake a device while surfing the web or listening my music. Dunno what these japs devs had in mind for their apps.

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Re: The problem with the anime industry...
« Reply #4 on: Mar 13 2014, 12:13 AM »
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Other things Miyazaki doesn't like include:

[...]the iPad, for which he compared the gestures to masturbation.
...Wait, what?

same here I owned a iPod Touch 2g and 4g and a iPhone 4s, and I can't relate to any behaviour I had that would make me say something like that... Well I don't really shake a device while surfing the web or listening my music. Dunno what these japs devs had in mind for their apps.

Except that I could shake my Android to scan for more devices? I'd rather Apple be blamed day and night by whoever, they should've been extinct long ago.

There is still a problem with the anime industry... and that is, Trigger's too god damn popular that nobody else can shine. Trigger should die too for the sake of the weaklings who can't get to be popular just because a fanservice company bullies them with the  shittiest of anime.

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Re: The problem with the anime industry...
« Reply #5 on: Mar 13 2014, 01:39 AM »
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Re: The problem with the anime industry...
« Reply #6 on: Mar 13 2014, 01:48 AM »
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8427/7540824794_85dd4f9969.jpg
the problem in a nutshell

Very true... that's maybe my reaction of that H anime I watched the other day (if you want an idea what its about, there's a GIF from it in the hardcore forum, last thread in it).

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Re: The problem with the anime industry...
« Reply #8 on: May 13 2014, 10:00 PM »
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8427/7540824794_85dd4f9969.jpg
the problem in a nutshell
Looks like a screencap from Yuru Yuri.

Um, I've been watching the original Saint Seiya recently online 'cause '80s shading.

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Re: The problem with the anime industry...
« Reply #9 on: May 14 2014, 04:09 AM »
The problem of the anime industry lies within the otaku who likes terribleness and puts down greatness. It should be obvious how KLK is terrible, along with almost... Any other battle shonen?

Then they get praise despite the fan service in them. However, they'll lolicons whenever they hate on something, although fan service. This fandom should be bombed and recreated proper. One guy simply didn't take me seriously because I disliked four anime (Naruto, DBZ, One Piece and KLK)  and thought that if I just disliked two that would make him take me seriously. In other words, I'm only allowed to dislike two. Disliking more means my opinion is garbage.

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Re: The problem with the anime industry...
« Reply #10 on: May 14 2014, 11:24 AM »
The problem of the anime industry lies within the otaku who likes terribleness and puts down greatness. It should be obvious how KLK is terrible, along with almost... Any other battle shonen?

Then they get praise despite the fan service in them. However, they'll lolicons whenever they hate on something, although fan service. This fandom should be bombed and recreated proper. One guy simply didn't take me seriously because I disliked four anime (Naruto, DBZ, One Piece and KLK)  and thought that if I just disliked two that would make him take me seriously. In other words, I'm only allowed to dislike two. Disliking more means my opinion is garbage.
Your opinion is only garbage if you dislike Patlabor and Legend of the Galactic Heroes.
(Patlabor being one of the most realistic mecha anime ever devised yet utilizes satire and comedy effectively to keep itself entertaining, while the movies take a bit of a darker approach yet still find a way to be suspenseful and have immersive settings.)

Legend of the Galactic Heroes was originally a sci-fi novel series written by Yoshiki Tanaka, and an OVA series was made based upon the novel, and used a mostly public domain soundtrack of classical music, which strangely fits in with all of the epic space battles, political conflicts, backstabbing, and axe fights that go on in this anime. The story is the most in-depth and complex thing you will ever see in anime, and it's executed almost flawlessly. It's a bit slow-paced, but if you don't mind that, there's so much to this anime.)

As for fan-service in anime, well, it's been there for a long time. Anime from the '80s had fan-service, but it also had other things to keep it entertaining. Whether downright bizarre animation, interesting stories, bizarre stories, and excellent characterization, and even mechanical designs. The big problem with fan-service is that it's sometimes used to cover up plots that lack substance or to cover up poor characterization. It shouldn't be the selling point of an anime, but rather the icing on the cake, depending on what the demographic is and what sort of style and feel it's going for.

Some of my favorite OVA series, which are Gunbuster and Bubblegum Crisis, are not without fan-service, though it's not too jarring or out-of-place. (OVA 2 of Gunbuster can feel a bit awkward at times, though, but it's still not out-of-place.)

Eh, thing is, battle shounen demographic-wise is typically for viewers in their pre-teens to their mid teens. People watch these for well-animated battle sequences and ridiculous, outlandish, cheesy plots.

[I mean, just watch the original Saint Seiya, or even watch the original Hokuto no Ken. The plots sometimes seem like they're pulling stuff out of their asses, but it tends to border on "so bad it's good".]

Some people even watch shoujo-genre magical girl anime for the same reason. [Nanoha will always be my favorite magical girl anime series. ¬_¬ Yes, I intend to watch the Sailor Moon remake, but I need to finish the 5th season of the original first. >_< Which I'll eventually get around to.]

You want something with a more purposeful story? Watch the older Gundam series, or, heck, watch Votoms. Or watch the aforementioned Legend of the Galactic Heroes. [LoGH is so packed with story and characters that it can be a bit difficult to digest, though. Trust me, though, it's good.]

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Re: The problem with the anime industry...
« Reply #11 on: May 14 2014, 03:27 PM »
I never knew what was LoGH until you mentioned it.

Regardless of cause... battle shonen acts like its the first thing you should watch in anime. These are just terrible, all they do is squeeze guys into situations where they could punch each other with their superhuman powers, and drag the battles for way too long. I'd prefer DB Kai over DBZ for that reason. And yet they get the praise. Indeed just as Miyazaki said, the problem lies within the otaku. Not to mention they dislike lolis but otherwise favors other anime with lots of fanservice.

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Re: The problem with the anime industry...
« Reply #12 on: May 16 2014, 01:12 AM »
I agree with Hayao, and at that same time, I feel it's a liiiiittle closed minded as well. The art should be able to flourish in however the creators want it to, but what he's saying is that it's like the pop music industry, churning out specially crafted pieces meant to create reactions and pretty much just make money. I feel like he's saying we've lost touch, there's no heart left in it. The otakus took it to a weird level, being far too hardcore. That's what I think he's saying at least.
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