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Gaming Arena => Gaming and Technology => Topic started by: Yerix on Jun 14 2012, 05:16 PM

Title: the version of donkey kong NES only europe got
Post by: Yerix on Jun 14 2012, 05:16 PM
Donkey Kong - Original Edition (running at 60Hz on an emulator) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EEmsPOwYf70#ws)

this version salvages most (if not all) of the arcade content that was cut out of the original NES port (lack of ROM space at the time as we all know)
it came pre-loaded in PAL red wii consoles during the time of SMB's 25th

one would say its redundant as they could just put the arcade version on instead, but it shows nintendo dosen't mind playing with the decades-old source code of a decades-old NES arcade port once in a blue moon

japan got a simular treatment but it was just a graphics hack of SMB with the ? blocks changed to 25th or something, basically a 5 minute tile layer pro hackjob

america got squat as usual

2-ish years later and nintendo still isn't considering a wider release of this version, nor has the arcade version been made available
Title: Re: the version of donkey kong NES only europe got
Post by: Mystical Ninja on Jun 15 2012, 09:05 AM
Ah, so they've restored the Pie Factory stage... I remember making a hoax/mock-up screenshot about eight years ago (which I no longer have), where that level was shown in the NES version. However, since I hadn't played the arcade version at the time (on an emulator that could run the game at full speed), I had no idea what its true palette looked like, so I made it red, instead of yellow. Otherwise, it was a pretty faithful recreation.

Speaking of the arcade version... It's quite a shame that version hasn't made its way to the Virtual Console, either, but on the bright side, at least it's in Donkey Kong 64. Ironically, that game also has yet to be added to the Virtual Console. Even Rare has no idea why that's the case.
Title: Re: the version of donkey kong NES only europe got
Post by: Yerix on Jun 16 2012, 05:33 AM
nintendo is anal about preserving the original experience of the VC releases, only when necessary the biggest they can change is graphics-related

jetpac obviously is where all the red tape on DK64 is coming from, and simply removing it will be taking away from the original experience
a remake however would cut the crap with emulation accuracy and allow replacement of any offending content, it's just a matter of rebuilding the original resources to fit current-gen standards

DKR wasn't worth the extensive hacking for a VC release, so they went with a DS remake

does rare even remember hiding jetpac in the game at all? i'm yet to see mention of it in any of their statements...
Title: Re: the version of donkey kong NES only europe got
Post by: Yerix on Jul 24 2012, 06:42 PM
its been confirmed in japan that those who purchase NSMB2 as a digital download can get this version off the eshop

and a suprising discovery, apperently the reason why arcade DK isn't anywhere on nintendo's download services is because ikegami tsushinki actually owns its source code and not nintendo.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ikegami_Tsushinki (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ikegami_Tsushinki)

while miyamoto designed it, ikegami actually did the programming and boards. the japanese ROM of arcade DK has hidden text showing their contact info, and graphics for their logo.
also, arcade DK's code was reverse-engineered to create arcade DK jr, provoking legal action.
they got away with it with arcade DK's inclusion in DK64 because it wasn't an official re-release.

http://1morecastle.com/2012/06/programmed-donkey-kong/ (http://1morecastle.com/2012/06/programmed-donkey-kong/)
http://jotaroraido.wordpress.com/2011/01/11/the-battle-of-donkey-kong/ (http://jotaroraido.wordpress.com/2011/01/11/the-battle-of-donkey-kong/)

again, ikegami did the programming, nintendo did everything else. we probably won't be seeing the arcade DK games nor DK64 anytime soon...

also worth noting is that ikegami also owns the programming for radar scope and a few more of nintendo's very early arcade games.
Title: Re: the version of donkey kong NES only europe got
Post by: Mystical Ninja on Jul 25 2012, 12:49 PM
while miyamoto designed it, ikegami actually did the programming and boards. the japanese ROM of arcade DK has hidden text showing their contact info, and graphics for their logo.
also, arcade DK's code was reverse-engineered to create arcade DK jr, provoking legal action.
That probably explains why the third one was so different from the other two.
Title: Re: the version of donkey kong NES only europe got
Post by: Yerix on Oct 01 2012, 08:45 PM
http://club2.nintendo.com/donkeykong/ (http://club2.nintendo.com/donkeykong/)
finally in america

club nintendo membership required unfortunately, derp

i might just register a CN account and download paper mario SS just for DK-OE
or just get a repro NES cartridge of it somewhere...that and one of earthbound 0