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Title: mario maker is SMB 30th anniv game
Post by: Yerix on Apr 11 2015, 11:29 PM
http://www.nintendo.co.jp/mario30th/index.html#/

as a side note, all known included enemies and elements so far will have graphics for all 4 known graphic styles

everything's being retrofitted as needed, wouldn't hurt to have SMB2LL/USA gfx and elements too
Title: Re: mario maker is SMB 30th anniv game
Post by: Mystical Ninja on Apr 12 2015, 04:16 PM
That's the thirtieth anniversary game? Yeah, I kinda figured. Along with SMB2 and Lost Levels, it would also be awesome if Super Paper Mario's graphical style was included in some way.
Title: Re: mario maker is SMB 30th anniv game
Post by: Yerix on Apr 13 2015, 12:30 AM
it's by far a better effort than slapping an SNES rom on a wii disc

games that work with user generated content (minecraft, etc) are all the rage
if nintendo shows prolonged support, as in additional element/character/gfx packs down the road, there's another hit on their hands
Title: Re: mario maker is SMB 30th anniv game
Post by: Yerix on Jun 14 2015, 08:23 PM
bowser jr. and koopa clown car confirmed

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3ud-XosuaY

unfortunately lamexplain and their running mouths
Title: Re: mario maker is SMB 30th anniv game
Post by: Yerix on Jun 16 2015, 12:59 PM
amiibo support confirmed, they're character skins

you tap a figure in, they're placed in a block, and appear as a ? mushroom in play that changes mario into that character

link is his zelda 1 sprite and they didn't even give him proper jump sprites (his jump is the item get sprite)
Title: Re: mario maker is SMB 30th anniv game
Post by: Yerix on Jun 17 2015, 06:15 PM
http://nintendoeverything.com/super-mario-maker-can-have-amiibo-skins-without-the-figures/
Title: Re: mario maker is SMB 30th anniv game
Post by: Yerix on Jun 17 2015, 06:54 PM
one thing i'll probably do is remake the SMBspecial levels, replacing some elements when needed
Title: Re: mario maker is SMB 30th anniv game
Post by: Yerix on Jul 10 2015, 01:11 PM
introducing slightly more detailed midget bowser
https://youtu.be/egSHeEkdXGw?t=3m14s
Title: Re: mario maker is SMB 30th anniv game
Post by: Mystical Ninja on Jul 10 2015, 05:52 PM
As always, I'm disappointed at the lack of love for SMB2.
Title: Re: mario maker is SMB 30th anniv game
Post by: Yerix on Jul 11 2015, 02:29 AM
nearly everything missing:

SMB:
luigi (real luigi - the amiibo costume dosen't count, and even then it neither uses luigi's original SMB sprite nor does it come with LL+USA luigi physics)
alternate methods of sublevel entry (clinbing a vine to the top, and jumping in a pit, the lack of both in which will make coin heaven areas lack an authentic feel
winter and night themes:
- http://www.mariouniverse.com/images/maps/nes/smb/7-1.png
- http://www.mariouniverse.com/images/maps/nes/smb/6-3.png
- http://www.mariouniverse.com/images/maps/nes/smb/3-1.png
- http://www.mariouniverse.com/images/maps/nes/smb/6-2.png
scale lifts
width of lifts cannot be modified - the original had 2 lift sizes
green para-troopas that fly back and forth
bowser throwing hammers
cheep cheeps jumping from the bottom of the screen, instead any that hit the bottom of the screen make short hops a few times before a high jump
red cheep cheeps have a back and forth movement pattern, green retains the original behavior
inability to make lakitu not generate a rideable cloud when defeated
warp pipes are always two-way
a warp pipe can only go to another warp pipe in a sublevel - two pipes can't be made to go to one pipe without layering the destination pipes, and a pipe can't go to another pipe in the same level space
endless looping levels
semi-solid platforms can't be smaller than 3x3
bridges can't be shorter in width than 3 tiles
fire bars have their own block design - originally used empty blocks

SMB3:
slopes
arrow platform
giant land tiles
pink jump block
water and lava tiles
inability to place enemies and items in ice blocks
frog suit
tanooki suit
hammer suit
p wing
boomerang bros
fire bros
angry sun - found to be cut/unfinished content
fire snake
para-beetle - replicated by placing wings on buzzy beetles
buster beetle
fire chomp
spike
mugger microgoomba
piledriver microgoomba
nipper plant
ptooie
hot foot
tweester
boss bass
lava lotus
big bertha
baby cheep
rotodisc
bowser statue
thwomp behavior that lets it crush with side or diagonal movements
boom boom
koopalings
wraparound

SMW:
light switch ? block
swinging platforms
on/off switch
diagonal warp pipe
climbing gate
platforms that float in water
snake block - semi-replicable with tracks
triangle block
! blocks
power balloon
yoshi's wings
3-up moon
berries
dragon coin
key+keyhole
magic ball
yellow/red/blue yoshi
grab block
reznor - semi-replicable
dolphin
AFHB
ball 'n' chain
big boo - semi-replicable
big bubble
blargg
bony beetle
chainsaw
chargin' chuck
climbing koopa
column
dino rhino
dino torch
eerie
falling spike
fishin boo
fishin lakitu
floating mine
fuzzy
hothead
blue/yellow koopas
li'l sparky
lakitu in a pipe
ninji
pokey
porcupuffer
rex
rip van fish
skewer
mechakoopa
skull box
torpedo ted
sumo bro
super koopa
swooper
thwimp
urchin
volcano lotus

NSMBU:
baby yoshis
nabbit
super acorn
p-acorn
ice flower
penguin suit
baby dragoneel
dragoneel
balloons
bowser stunner
fliprus
grrrolls
gurindai
ice piranha plant
mecha cheep
mega grrroll
red skull box
targeting ted
waddlewing
amp
bramball
broozer
bulber
heavy para-beetle
cooligan
clampy
eep cheep
foo
ghost block
huckit crab
jellybeam
king bill
magmaargh
magmaw
prickly goomba
river piranha plant
scaredy rat
spiked ball
spiny cheep cheep
stalking piranha plant
barrel
blue coin
water ball
dash coin
green ring
green coin
red ring
red coin
roulette block
stretch block
star coin

i'm more disappointed at the lack of slopes and luigi myself, they might as well have just left SMB as the only skin on here and retrograded near every major mario level feature and enemy under the mushroom kingdom sun into SMB graphics if you can't even make anything faithful to the level design conventions of SMB3/SMW/NSMB with what they provide

especially luigi, cheating mr. green out of the game that celebrates SMB's 30th anniv and being a level editor at that, has to be one of the most showerbag moves nintendo pulled on him since his removal from SM64 (and for so-called technical reasons, claiming his inclusion would've limited the level design, yet accomplished SM64 hackers can get a functional luigi working as an independant character slot just fine)
Title: Re: mario maker is SMB 30th anniv game
Post by: Yerix on Jul 15 2015, 12:22 AM
http://www.mariowiki.com/images/d/d2/Super_Mario_Maker_-_Sprites_artwork_-_Super_Mario_Bros..png
http://www.mariowiki.com/images/8/8d/Super_Mario_Maker_-_Sprites_artwork_-_Super_Mario_Bros._3.png
http://www.mariowiki.com/images/1/1e/Super_Mario_Maker_-_Sprites_artwork_-_Super_Mario_World.png

every new/retrograded thing

nipper plant [SMB] [SMB3] [SMW] [NSMBU]
bob-omb [SMB] [SMB3] [SMW] [NSMBU]
hammer bros [SMB] [SMB3] [SMW] [NSMBU]
sledge bros [SMB] [SMB3] [SMW] [NSMBU]
lava bubble [SMB] [SMB3] [SMW] [NSMBU]
monty mole [SMB] [SMB3] [SMW] [NSMBU]
thwomp [SMB] [SMB3] [SMW] [NSMBU]
venus fire trap [SMB] [SMB3] [SMW] [NSMBU]
blooper [SMB] [SMB3] [SMW] [NSMBU]
wiggler [SMB] [SMB3] [SMW] [NSMBU]
lakitu [SMB] [SMB3] [SMW] [NSMBU]
magikoopa [SMB] [SMB3] [SMW] [NSMBU]
dry bones [SMB] [SMB3] [SMW] [NSMBU]
bullet bill + blaster [SMB] [SMB3] [SMW] [NSMBU]
bulls-eye bill + blaster [SMB] [SMB3] [SMW] [NSMBU]
bowser [SMB] [SMB3] [SMW] [NSMBU]
bowser jr. [SMB] [SMB3] [SMW] [NSMBU]
goomba [SMB] [SMB3] [NSMBU]
galoomba [SMW]
kuribo's shoe [SMB] [SMB3]
kuribo's stiletto [SMB] [SMB3]
buzzy beetle [SMB] [SMB3] [SMW] [NSMBU]
grn koopa [SMB] [SMB3] [SMW] [NSMBU]
red koopa [SMB] [SMB3] [SMW] [NSMBU]
piranha plant [SMB] [SMB3] [NSMBU]
jumping piranha plant [SMW]
rocky wrench [SMB] [SMB3] [SMW] [NSMBU]
red cheep cheep [SMB] [SMB3] [NSMBU]
blurp [SMW]
grn cheep cheep [SMB] [SMB3] [NSMBU]
boo [SMB] [SMB3] [SMW] [NSMBU] (it appears that it can be converted to a variant of stretch in SMW)
spike top [SMB] [SMB3] [SMW] [NSMBU]
spiny [SMB] [SMB3] [SMW] [NSMBU]
chain chomp [SMB] [SMB3] [SMW] [NSMBU]
brick block [SMB] [SMB3] [NSMBU]
rotating block [SMW]
? block [SMB] [SMB3] [SMW] [NSMBU]
jump block [SMB] [SMB3] [SMW] [NSMBU]
ice block [SMB] [SMB3] [SMW] [NSMBU]
empty block [SMB] [SMB3] [SMW] [NSMBU]
donut block [SMB] [SMB3] [SMW] [NSMBU]
bland block [SMB] [NSMBU]
stone block [SMW]
wooden block [SMB3]
spike block [SMB] [SMB3] [SMW] [NSMBU]
cloud block [SMB] [SMB3] [SMW] [NSMBU]
pipe [SMB] [SMB3] [SMW] [NSMBU]
door [SMB] [SMB3] [SMW] [NSMBU]
rocket engine [SMB] [SMB3] [SMW] [NSMBU]
fire bar [SMB] [SMB3] [SMW] [NSMBU]
platform [SMB] [SMB3] [SMW] [NSMBU]
koopa clown car [SMB] [SMB3] [SMW] [NSMBU]
vine block [SMB] [SMB3] [SMW] [NSMBU]
trampoline [SMB] [SMB3] [SMW] [NSMBU]
POW block [SMB] [SMB3] [SMW] [NSMBU]
P switch [SMB] [SMB3] [SMW] [NSMBU]
skull raft [SMB] [SMB3] [SMW] [NSMBU]
super mushroom [SMB] [SMB3] [SMW] [NSMBU]
fire flower [SMB] [SMB3] [SMW] [NSMBU]
1-up mushroom [SMB] [SMB3] [SMW] [NSMBU]
starman [SMB] [SMB3] [SMW] [NSMBU]
super leaf [SMB3]
cape feather [SMW]
yoshi egg [SMW] [NSMBU]
propeller mushroom [NSMBU]
mystery mushroom [SMB]
luigi mushroom [SMB]

i like how they stay within the graphical limitations of their respective systems (NES:3 colors+trans. SNES:15 colors+trans)
exception being SMB bowser and bowser jr., those were meant to be used with the black BG of the castle stages they belong in, faking a drawn border

i don't get why they added a kuribo's stiletto when that could've easily been another element, maybe someone at nintendo has a fetish
Title: Re: mario maker is SMB 30th anniv game
Post by: Yerix on Jul 29 2015, 11:09 AM
http://nintendoeverything.com/super-mario-maker-supports-99-amiibo-costumes-can-unlock-without-figures-or-cards/

compatibility with nearly every amiibo figure + card confirmed, including pokemon

and for people who aren't willing to spend $9001 on something like inkling squid or ness, they'll be unlockable via the 10/100 mario challenge
Title: Re: mario maker is SMB 30th anniv game
Post by: Yerix on Jul 30 2015, 02:28 PM
so this is what the luigi mushroom does to mario now:
http://nintendoeverything.com/wp-content/uploads/super-mario-maker-weird-mario.jpg

reminds me of this eldrich horror:
http://img07.deviantart.net/fa97/i/2013/013/8/0/pikaman_stance_by_luketheemewtwo-d5rdtdo.png
Title: Re: mario maker is SMB 30th anniv game
Post by: Yerix on Aug 17 2015, 06:39 PM
sonic costume appears to be modified sonic 1 sprites
http://gonintendo.com/stories/240686-super-mario-maker-a-look-at-the-sonic-amiibo-costume
Title: Re: mario maker is SMB 30th anniv game
Post by: Yerix on Sep 03 2015, 02:48 PM
all mystery costumes unveiled

overalls wario and daisy strangely shafted for-
- yarn yoshis
- a bunch of anicro characters
- the mii mascot for a neutered 3DS messaging app
- a goddamn mahjong tile

i mean even waluigi got in
Title: Re: mario maker is SMB 30th anniv game
Post by: Yerix on Sep 09 2015, 11:33 PM
http://nintendoeverything.com/famitsu-mascot-to-be-added-as-a-costume-in-super-mario-maker/

a furry japanese magazine mascot in the famous plumber's overalls, DLC surface officially scratched

hopefully this paves the way for more elaborate DLC
Title: Re: mario maker is SMB 30th anniv game
Post by: Yerix on Sep 10 2015, 02:39 PM
day 1 update significantly shortens the 9 days of unlocks into 15 minute intervals

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1110137

so about 135 minutes total or 2 hours and 15 mins of editor play to get everything now
Title: Re: mario maker is SMB 30th anniv game
Post by: Yerix on Sep 14 2015, 10:03 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IOdhFajSdj8

what a fucking tease

the smashfor stage has practically everything missing from the actual game

- sloped ground, slanted platforms
- lava/water pools
- white bland blocks in overworld theme
Title: Re: mario maker is SMB 30th anniv game
Post by: Yerix on Sep 23 2015, 09:25 PM
futher datamining suggests:
- NSMBU kuribo's shoe
- SMB3, SMW, NSMBU angry sun
- NSMBU super leaf
- SMB3, SMW bullet bills fired offscreen
Title: Re: mario maker is SMB 30th anniv game
Post by: Yerix on Sep 26 2015, 01:48 AM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CPtdYjDVEAE7p4_.png:large

Quote
A(1.0)
B(0.95)
BabyMario
BalloonFight
C(0.9)
D(0.85)
EGadd
GoldenRetri
MarioUs
Mashiko
MrSaturn
Muncher
Nabbit
PinkRabbit
Popo
Tetris
WindowsLogo

nintendo trying to make nice with microsoft?
references to scrapped mystery costumes of baby mario, SMB2USA mario, balloon fighter, e. gadd, what seems to be an internal name for undodog, mr. saturn, mary o., muncher, ice climber, the nintendo badge arcade rabbit, nabbit, tetris, and the windows logo of all things were discovered

i reckon tetris was a legal impossibility anyway with ubisoft's ugly mitts on the license
Title: Re: mario maker is SMB 30th anniv game
Post by: Yerix on Sep 29 2015, 04:52 PM
https://tcrf.net/Super_Mario_Maker

apparently clown cars would've been made to drop big steelies
the only known remaining sprites of it were found alongside those of a mario clown car

also a sizeable amount of early splatoon icons somehow got in
Title: Re: mario maker is SMB 30th anniv game
Post by: Yerix on Oct 01 2015, 07:32 PM
we have another guest:
http://nintendoeverything.com/gamecenter-cxs-arino-coming-to-super-mario-maker-as-a-costume/
Title: Re: mario maker is SMB 30th anniv game
Post by: Mystical Ninja on Oct 01 2015, 10:53 PM
what a fucking tease
Do you know what else is a "fucking tease"? The fact that they would have the audacity to use the red door sprite from SMB2, despite going out of their way to exclude that game's graphical (and gameplay) style.
Title: Re: mario maker is SMB 30th anniv game
Post by: Yerix on Oct 05 2015, 02:50 AM
hell i'm still waiting for wart to return and drag babies into a storybook again

knowing my luck it'll end up being the plot of yoshi's new island 2, yet another shitstain left on yoshi's legacy by the hackjobs at arzest
Title: Re: mario maker is SMB 30th anniv game
Post by: Yerix on Oct 15 2015, 03:25 PM
http://www.gonintendo.com/stories/244737-super-mario-kun-costume-coming-to-super-mario-maker
Title: Re: mario maker is SMB 30th anniv game
Post by: Yerix on Oct 27 2015, 03:19 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=esX_FPaZdDQ
Title: Re: mario maker is SMB 30th anniv game
Post by: Yerix on Nov 10 2015, 03:46 PM
the rendition of the SMB underground theme used in editing mode reminds me even more of friendship's "let's not talk about it"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8bZxepTQzkI&index=6&list=PLQWz7Y_QbVVxvgx_Xd4Ow3D_2Uru7bMKm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TOFlsEBkPxs
Title: Re: mario maker is SMB 30th anniv game
Post by: Yerix on Nov 11 2015, 12:09 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=glQTV_2TqRY

bullshit, should've been powerup DLC to add the super bell to all the themes instead
Title: Re: mario maker is SMB 30th anniv game
Post by: Yerix on Nov 19 2015, 04:27 PM
daisy's fanbase clearly is full of looneys, and not of the bugs bunny variety either

michaellol, memoryman3, etc...those two i've heard of when reading over gamefaqs

one of them's behind this hoax:
http://mynintendonews.com/2015/11/19/rumour-daisy-costume-discovered-on-japanese-super-mario-maker-site/

is this what happens when a well-loved character dosen't get a major role in a core game for 25 years?
and i'm sure some have it worse...
Title: Re: mario maker is SMB 30th anniv game
Post by: Yerix on Nov 27 2015, 04:59 PM
http://www.mariowiki.com/List_of_Super_Mario_3D_Land_pre-release_and_unused_content

weird mario apperently is a recycling of a scrapped SM3DL concept

Quote
...and a stretched Mario with very long limbs.

that shit in 3D model form would've been nightmare fuel for little kids
Title: Re: mario maker is SMB 30th anniv game
Post by: Yerix on Dec 17 2015, 04:18 PM
incoming free DLC

http://www.gamespot.com/articles/super-mario-maker-free-dlc-includes-koopa-clown-ca/1100-6433211/?utm_source=gamefaqs&utm_medium=partner&utm_content=news_module&utm_campaign=hub_platform

FKCC at least allows a mild emulation of the ill-remembered marine/sky pop
Title: Re: mario maker is SMB 30th anniv game
Post by: Yerix on Dec 18 2015, 01:57 PM
mr. saturn, master belch, and badge arcade rabbit MCs coming in

http://mynintendonews.com/2015/12/18/mr-saturn-master-belch-from-earthbound-heading-to-super-mario-maker/
Title: Re: mario maker is SMB 30th anniv game
Post by: Yerix on Feb 12 2016, 05:32 PM
might as well bring up that all-stars is getting a rerelease through the nintendo selects line

https://mobile.twitter.com/VideoGamesPlus_/status/698273278889168896?p=v

why the fuck are they still belting out anicro city folk copies in the age of the vastly superior new leaf
Title: Re: mario maker is SMB 30th anniv game
Post by: Yerix on Feb 18 2016, 08:58 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0AutSKB6LOA

wtf ninetender getting this animu stuff in my mario
Title: Re: mario maker is SMB 30th anniv game
Post by: Mystical Ninja on Feb 20 2016, 04:40 PM
What anime is that character from?
Title: Re: mario maker is SMB 30th anniv game
Post by: Yerix on Feb 20 2016, 05:19 PM
according to research she's off a shonen jump animango called nisekoi, one of the harem/romantic comedy genre

this happened because the mangaka created the event course the costume is unlocked on

to my knowledge that property never was involved with video games until now
Title: Re: mario maker is SMB 30th anniv game
Post by: Yerix on Mar 03 2016, 10:12 PM
an upcoming update is adding keys, skewers, locked doors, and pink coins

the keys follow mario around yoshi's island style

and a super expert 100 mario challenge for the mario masochists
Title: Re: mario maker is SMB 30th anniv game
Post by: Yerix on Jul 01 2016, 02:29 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZOjceOQ_Lw

oddly enough, this is the first time we see the squid sisters assume their squid forms, retaining their distinct eye "masks"

stahp ths shit ninetender
i'm a recovering splatoonoholic
Title: Re: mario maker is SMB 30th anniv game
Post by: M.C. on Jul 03 2016, 10:05 PM
So did this piss off all the romhackers who have been making Mario Games the hard way?